An 11-story building is proposed to go up on the Neptune Diner site in Astoria. The diner has been in Astoria for decades (GMaps)
April 1, 2021 By Christina Santucci
The future of the Neptune Diner is in doubt as a developer wants to bulldoze the site and construct an 11-story building.
Community Board 1 held a meeting via Zoom last week to hear an informational presentation about the plan that involves rezoning three sites along 31st Street between Hoyt Avenue North and 23rd Road.
The developer wants the rezoning in order to construct three buildings along 31st Street. Two of the sites are now occupied by the Neptune Diner and a Staples store respectively, while the third site is a vacant lot on 31st Street between 24th Avenue and 23rd Road.
The three buildings would range in height from 11 to 14 stories, and would be located on the east side of 31st Street, where the elevated N/W line runs. The entire development would bring 287 apartments to the strip as well as retail space and community facilities such as senior and youth centers, a representative for the developers said.
The applicants seeking the rezoning are named as 31 Neptune LLC, 2441 Astoria Associates LLC and MDM Development Group LLC.
An 11-story mixed use building is planned to go up on the site of the Nepture Diner in Astoria (Screen shot of developer presentation taken during Land Use & Zoning Committee meeting)
The developers presented their plan to board members during a Land Use & Zoning committee meeting.
The meeting, however, was disrupted when it was Zoom bombed.
Obscene drawings and a video with explicit lyrics were visible on screen. Following a second interruption, the meeting was continued in a private setting. The meeting was being screened live on YouTube at the time.
It was unclear who orchestrated the disruption and what the purpose was, if any. Board officials said they are now reviewing how virtual meetings are convened.
“We are looking into procedure and protocol,” said CB1’s District Manager Florence Koulouris. “This was the first time this has ever happened.”
A representative for the developer who was speaking about the plan at the time attempted to continue his presentation despite the disruption.
“This is my first experience with Zoom bombing so thank you for bearing with me,” said Frank St. Jacques, who was speaking on behalf of the rezoning applicants.
Screen shot of the developer presentation taken during CB1’s Land Use & Zoning Committee meeting last week
The developers plan to set aside 72 of the 287 units for affordable housing, under Option 1 of the Mandatory Inclusionary Housing (MIH) requirements. The units would be for households making 60 percent – on average – of the area median income, or about $68,000 for a family of four.
The plan has been filed with City Planning but has not yet begun the public review process known as a ULURP. St. Jacques said the developers are hoping that the review process will begin later this spring once City Planning certifies the application.
The sites were previously rezoned as part of the 2010 Astoria Rezoning.
It is unclear what would happen to the Neptune Diner, which has been in Astoria for several decades, should the property be rezoned.
Peter Katsihtis, the diner’s owner, told the Queens Post in 2019—when there were rumors of its closing – that he had signed a five-year lease.
A manager refused to comment when called Wednesday.
The popular Astoria diner opened an outpost in Bayside earlier this year where Jackson Hole was located.
Developers plan to rezone and construct a 14-story building at 24-41 31st., where Staples is currently located (Screen shot of the developer presentation taken during Land Use & Zoning Committee meeting last week)
This development is planned to go up on a vacant lot on 31st Street between 24th Avenue and 23rd Road (Screen shot of the developer presentation taken during CB1’s Land Use & Zoning Committee meeting last week)
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11 Comments
Please don’t allow this re-zoning. Many of our favorite spots on 31st street have already been replaced by tall buildings. The neighborhood is disappearing at a rapid rate.
Horrified to see this.More dystopian lack of Human scale plans ,unfriendly styles of building.Wasteland, Hell Vandalism
Compare Rotterdam or Athens.
NOBODY WANTS TO LIVE NEXT TO THE SUBWAY TRACK STOP BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE THERE
This is crazy… all we see is new buildings get build for housing. When walking down Steinway all you see is empty stories. And when you look at near by housings in Astoria park you now see a bunch of for rent signs up. They want to build these apartments to sell for what 700,000 an apartment. I love Astoria but it’s not worth that price tag. Crime all time high and the streets are full of crazy people, drug addicts, empty stores, and assholes who want to make 38street like Miami strip. I see why people want to leave.
Over the years, we have seen the demise of too many others including the Bay Terrace (Bayside). Bel Aire & Neptune (Astoria), Gold Star (Bayside), Seville (Douglaston), Sage (Elmhurst), Nevada (Elmhurst), Kanes (Flushing), Saravan (Flushing), Palace (Flushing), Future (Fresh Meadows), Forest Hills (Forest Hills), Waterview (Howard Beach), Fame (Jamaica), Scobees Grill (Little Neck), Sky Line (Glen Oaks), Shalimar (Rego Park) Tasty (Ridgewood) and other diners.
Diners have been part of my life from teenage years to today. Eating out is a periodic ritual with my wife. Portions are generous. Who never took a doggie bag home with leftovers to eat the next day. Between the customary soup, salad, rolls, coleslaw and pickles along with the main course — dinner could satisfy the heartiest appetite. Many times, we bagged our desserts to go.
Larry Penner
Bel Aire Diner is open for business.
At least Larry Penner still lives up here in the Northeast. It irks me when the people that abandoned the neighborhood and moved South lament about the closure of iconic diners in their former neighborhood. It’s not always development that forces these places to close – it’s because the customers have left the state. Hipsters and millenials don’t patronize diners.
Stifle, Larry. Please.
HOW MANY MORE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS HAVE TO GO UP IN QUEENS???? BLOCKS OF STORES HAVE HAD TO GO OUT OF BUSINESS TO BUILDING RESIDENCES. WE NEED SMALL STORES, DINERS, NOT MORE PEOPLE TO ADD TO THE ALREADY OVER-CROWDED BOROUGH OF QUEENS!! THESE DEVELOPERS PROBABLY LIVE IN MILLION DOLLAR HOUSES IN WESTCHESTER OR SUFFOLK COUNTY AND NOT EVEN IN NYC.
I feel like developers should be required to show the elevated subway tracks in every drawing of the space. And you just know that those affordable units are gonna be the ones that look right onto the tracks. Neptune Diner forever!
Enough with the apartment buildings already!!! Leave the restaurant, people enjoy going there and it’s been a staple to the neighborhood. Let the real estate people stop building, it’s not affordable anyway, no matter what they say.
Why are these morons wanting to build these when people are leaving NYC in droves and many new buildings are already sitting half empty. Dummies